MP anger at Saturday night 'tunnel run'

By Rob Virtue on November 20, 2012 2:15 PM |

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Poplar and Limehouse MP Jim Fitzpatrick has slammed the council and police reaction to the latest tunnel run at the weekend.

Mr Fitzpatrick said the event at Westferry, which 200 BMW cars confirmed they would attend, saw severe congestion, illegal parking and cars driving on the wrong side of the road.

"These tunnel runs are an accident waiting to happen," said the MP. "It would seem the police and council response is to do nothing until this happens which is wholly unacceptable.

"Tunnel runs are taking over our boroughs' roads on the weekend and this must stop."

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Mr Fitzpatrick had previously called on both the police and council to act over the gatherings which see large groups of cars drive along routes including the Blackwall Tunnel and Limehouse Link, while also congregating at the underground roundabout at Westferry.

Regarding Saturday's event, the MP said police allowed cars to double park and stop on double yellow lines.

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Organisers of the runs argue they are safe and raise thousands of pounds for charity.

55 Comments

Rich said:

Get your facts right mr MP!!

The vehicles that were going the wrong way were 2 audi's and 2 range rovers, NOTHING! to do with the group there. The vehicles involved were delt with my the police who were in attendance the whole time.

BMW Events said:

Dear Reader,

I believe Mr Fitzpatrick may have amnesia. You see, I am one of the organisers of this event and I wrote to the Mp a few weeks ago asking on how we could work together. I also repeatedly called, emailed, public facebooked and private facebooked, but unfortunately, Mr Fitz forgot to get back to me each time. The Mp also seems to forget that our event was pre-approved by the council and that it was us who spoke to the police weeks before. He also must have forgotten that we were only there for two hours and parked sensibly so that even the buses had no trouble getting past. He has also forgotten that our photography and talk of cars and motorsport did not cause any accidents or injury. He also forgot that all our vehicles were marked with charity iconography and window stickers to aid our police chaperones with identification. In regards to the person caught going the wrong way around the roundabout, we didn’t even know until today; it certainly wasn’t while we were there. This driver didn’t have our recognition markers, and wasn’t mentioned during the positive feedback telephone calls by either the police or the council, so we can only assume it was a particularly rebellious individual or a figment of Jim’s imagination. Amnesia does seem logical, after all, he did forget to abide by the rules of the house of Commons in 2009 when he was found guilty of sending thousands of unsolicited letters and coffee invites at taxpayer’s expense; and then, for his own political gain, forgot to aid the fraud investigation and refused to apologise since the general election was imminent. Perhaps in time, Jim will also forget this vote grabbing tactic against legal motor enthusiasts, and will remember to look at the important things in his constituency, like the fact that last year Poplar and Canning town was ranked the second worst place in the UK for child poverty (55% of households). On a more positive note, those two hours of BMW fun raised an estimated £500 for Demelza Children’s Hospice. Charity starts at home Jim, let us be the ones who lead it.

Thanks and regards,

RoadUser said:

Jim Fitzpatrick wasn't imagining. We were caught up in the gridlock you caused at Westferry Circus that night as so many of you parked illegally around the Circus. We also saw cars that drove the wrong way because they were fed up with the jam you created.

Does your chosen charity know what you subjected other road users to in order to raise £500 for them?

Mark Brown said:

Another example of lazy sensationalist journalism where little or no attention is paid to the facts. Mr Fitzpatrick seems to have an equally dismal attitude when it comes to commenting on unsubstantiated comments, such as those above.
I have emailed Mr Fitzpatrick on several occasions yet received no response. I would remind Mr Fitzpatrick MP, that he is in the employ of his constituents and as such, has an obligation to respond to their questions.

Mark Brown said:

Mr Fitzpatrick's comments imply that it was cars in attendance of this event, that were driving illegally yet this was not so. Whilst I would concede that the unusually high number of cars caused some delay, it would be unfair to lay the blame of the actions of a few idiot drivers who would rather risk their safety and the safety of others, than simply wait a few minutes.
This event was planned with the local authority and Police force in attendance. Organisers did all they could to make sure that the negative aspects of any such event were minimal. It is clear that this doesn't make for good headlines though and Mr Fitzpatrick's comments would fall on deaf ears.

Hayden said:

I get caught up in traffic snarl ups for London events all the time, particularly around the O2. These events do nothing but make musicians rich. The Queens Jubilee was particularly bad.

Why isn't Jim targeting these also?

It sounds like the only people that broke the law were motorists unconnected with the event and the police dealt with them then and there, so NEXT....

RoadUser said:

The point is you lot should not have parked illegally around the Circus in the first place. It's a public roundabout with double yellow lines. We had to sit in the jam for 20 mins you caused because you guys had no idea where you were going and created an infinite loop at the roundabout until the police intervened. So, who was being idiotic there?

Martin said:

RE: RoadUser.

So you saw people unrelated to the event driving illegally? Whether it was due to their own impatience or not, the article states that it was the tunnel runners driving illegally, yet you just stated that the people you saw driving dangerously, illegally and putting their own and other people's lives at risk were not connected to the event?

I see from the pictures in this article that an AA low loader had plenty of room to negotiate the parked vehicles, what do you drive? A tank? Or do your driving skills leave little to be desired? Whilst we're at it, were you one of these people that drove the wrong way?

Mert said:

RoadUser . I am sure you didn't have the same on the Olympics. so why over this? why do you complain so much over a 20 minute wait. is it really allot of your time? we knew where we was going, that was a meetup point. And eventually headed to our trip to the millennium wheel. as for the police they were fully aware of what was going on and so was the council. i don't know about intervening. this was a total LEGAL operation for a charity event. so if your all chewed up about 20 minutes of your time then it goes to show the sort of person you are. we sit in traffic DAILY for all sorts of reasons.

Mert said:

RoadUser . I am sure you didn't have the same on the Olympics. so why over this? why do you complain so much over a 20 minute wait. is it really allot of your time? we knew where we was going, that was a meetup point. And eventually headed to our trip to the millennium wheel. as for the police they were fully aware of what was going on and so was the council. i don't know about intervening. this was a total LEGAL operation for a charity event. so if your all chewed up about 20 minutes of your time then it goes to show the sort of person you are. we sit in traffic DAILY for all sorts of reasons.

mert said:

sorry my computer slowed down i posted twice.

J said:

I love how the get out clause for this illegal use of the road for parking / event is charity.

Well done for raising money for charity, I would have much more respect for you if it was not to divert attention from the simple fact that this is being done purely for the pleasure of the drivers taking part.

£500 for charity raised when there were 200 cars, that means each car load of people ( im sure each car had more then one person in it ) raised on average £2.50


£2.50 raised per car ? not a very productive charity now is it ?? more like a smoke screen for the real reason fun for the drivers.

///M5man said:

Mr J, the event was cut short due to excessive roadworks and the raffle to win the car did not occur. the organisers are planning on doing something else next year to recoup those lost pounds. Illegal 'underground' stuff occurs which does nothing for charity, at least this event was properly managed and had pre-approval and police presence. fact is people wouldnt come to these events if they were not fun. None of the drivers were caught being naughty and traffic disruption was minimal, buses and lorries had no problem getting through. Please step down from your high horse and stop trying to fuel this ridiculous scaremongering.

RoadUser said:

We drive a BMW X5, not quite a tank. We donate money to various charities each year without causing problems to other people and incurring cost to the public like you did. If charities are so dear to your heart as you said, why not do something more useful like spending the same amount of time you did on the night with children at Demelza Children’s Hospice?


In terms of the event being totally legal, the photo above clearly shows that you double parked at a public roundabout (and called it a meeting point) where double yellow lines were clearly marked. So at the very start of your event, it's ILLEGAL already.


Whilst we are at it, on your own pages you mentioned your run was disrupted by the police in Westminster and Lambeth. So if as you claimed that the approval was given across all councils and police, why were they there to disrupt/re-route your run and blocked off roads completely?


And are you going to pay for the policing cost on the night aross London due to your event? It certainly was more than the £500 you raised.

RoadUser said:

We drive a BMW X5, not quite a tank. We donate money to various charities each year without causing problems to other people and incurring cost to the public like you did. If charities are so dear to your heart as you said, why not do something more useful like spending the same amount of time you did on the night with children at Demelza Children’s Hospice?


In terms of the event being totally legal, the photo above clearly shows that you double parked at a public roundabout (and called it a meeting point) where double yellow lines were clearly marked. So at the very start of your event, it's ILLEGAL already.


Whilst we are at it, on your own pages you mentioned your run was disrupted by the police in Westminster and Lambeth. So if as you claimed that the approval was given across all councils and police, why were they there to disrupt/re-route your run and blocked off roads completely?


And are you going to pay for the policing cost on the night aross London due to your event? It certainly was more than the £500 you raised.

Mildred said:

Dear Tunnel Runners,
Let us believe for a moment that you actually had approval from the council and police for your activities. Do you then pay for the policing or do you leave the taxpayer to foot the bill for your event?

BMW Events said:

Dear RoadUser,

Firstly, I would like to point out the admin team did visit the hospice on the afternoon of November 10th. We were touched by the good work that occurs there, and all came away determined to do what we could.

Legality. We have a letter of no objection by the police and the Tower Hamlets council. Yes we are double parked, but our police escorts said they would only ask us to move if we became a problem to traffic flow. Since we were not moved, and were not illegal, I fail to see your arguement.

Different police districts are co-ordinated differently. After speaking to all our stakeholders involved, we actually apologised to Lambeth and Westminster police. They had nothing to do with the spurious road closures.

I do not see why we should pay for policing across greater london, when we only requested for assitance at Westferry for our own safety. Furthermore, Tower Hamlets police were actually reluctant to be present as they said these events are typrically self governing and need little intervention. Why dont you give them a call and find out about the fantastic feedback we recived? The only issue was the exit of the tunnel where there was some congestion as the police had created a bottlneck with only one lane open. This I queried and next time we will have a more orderly exit.

Unfortunately, due to road closures and a problem with the maps sold. Only maybe a third of the cars who arrived at Westferry made it to the final location. As such we did not meet our donation targets and failed to successfully raffle off the 5 series. We will be holding another event in the near future, and again we will have our letters of no objection ready. Just like the last time, there will be no trouble and we will be even better than last time on exiting. Since you have an X5, why dont you join us and swap being a keyboard warrior for a philanthropist and enthusiast?

Thanks and regards

BMW Events said:

All,
These events will happen anyway amongst motor enthusaiasts of all ages and social backgounds, there is nothing that I, the police, the council or Jim Fitz can do that will stop that. There will always be people with an interest in cars so long as car manufacturers exist. I fail to see how clandestine secret events and anarchy are preferable to organised charity meets. In any case, why are we still arguing about this when there are so many more important issues and things broken with Britain. I refer back to my first message - Poplar and Canning town is the second worst place in the UK for child poverty. Why is Jim so focused on the discussions in Europe over rules for modified cars when 55% of his constituency have a daily wage classed as £11 or under. In fact why are you still reading this? Go and do something constructive with your life, nothing you post here will make any difference. See you all at the next event.

BMWFBOC Events Management

BMW Events said:

All,
These events will happen anyway amongst motor enthusaiasts of all ages and social backgounds, there is nothing that I, the police, the council or Jim Fitz can do that will stop that. There will always be people with an interest in cars so long as car manufacturers exist. I fail to see how clandestine secret events and anarchy are preferable to organised charity meets. In any case, why are we still arguing about this when there are so many more important issues and things broken with Britain. I refer back to my first message - Poplar and Canning town is the second worst place in the UK for child poverty. Why is Jim so focused on the discussions in Europe over rules for modified cars when 55% of his constituency have a daily disposable income classed as £11 or under. In fact why are you still reading this? Go and do something constructive with your life, nothing you post here will make any difference. See you all at the next event.

BMWFBOC Events Management

BMW Events said:

All,
These events will happen anyway amongst motor enthusaiasts of all ages and social backgounds, there is nothing that I, the police, the council or Jim Fitz can do that will stop that. There will always be people with an interest in cars so long as car manufacturers exist. I fail to see how clandestine secret events and anarchy are preferable to organised charity meets. In any case, why are we still arguing about this when there are so many more important issues and things broken with Britain. I refer back to my first message - Poplar and Canning town is the second worst place in the UK for child poverty. Why is Jim so focused on the discussions in Europe over rules for modified cars when 55% of his constituency have a daily disposable income classed as £11 or under. In fact why are you still reading this? Go and do something constructive with your life, nothing you post here will make any difference. See you all at the next event.

BMWFBOC Events Management

BMW Events said:

All,
These events will happen anyway amongst motor enthusaiasts of all ages and social backgounds, there is nothing that I, the police, the council or Jim Fitz can do that will stop that. There will always be people with an interest in cars so long as car manufacturers exist. I fail to see how clandestine secret events and anarchy are preferable to organised charity meets. In any case, why are we still arguing about this when there are so many more important issues and things broken with Britain. I refer back to my first message - Poplar and Canning town is the second worst place in the UK for child poverty. Why is Jim so focused on the discussions in Europe over rules for modified cars when 55% of his constituency have a daily disposable income classed as £11 or under. In fact why are you still reading this? Go and do something constructive with your life, nothing you post here will make any difference. See you all at the next event.

BMWFBOC Events Management

RoadUser said:

Thank you for the invite but whilst we are all for fun track days on legal race tracks, we are not interested in driving around in early hours across London, causing noise nuisance to local residents and safety concerns to other road users, in the name of raising money for charities.


We also love driving our car like you do but we fail to see how events like this could justify costs of policing across London, which ultimately are paid for by taxpayers.


If you organise a day out on a proper race track, we will be there. Until then.

BMW Events said:

RE: Mildred

I think you forget all BMW owners are indeed tax payers, of many forms, council tax, road tax, income tax.. i think we more than covered the bill especially as the majority of the cars that attended belonged to those in the high net worth categories.

As for permission we have written consent from all parties involved

RE: Roaduser

The double parking on double yellows was not illegal, we were given permission by the police to park as such. The laws for this were lifted on this eve for this event.

The reason for the method of donating to charities is simple, car enthusiasts exist, they long for events of this nature, they would happen regardless. We however are of a new trend where we are promoting the fact that not all car enthusiasts are disruptive and a kind where dangerous driving is involved. We met with our chosen charity, we visited the hospice and felt they could use the funding PRIOR to the organising of this event. We then built the event around them, acquiring promotional material, stands, and information to be handed out to those who attended showing how they too can help on a personal level. Like what has been previous mentioned we didnt meet our targets, this couldnt be helped, we were a little understaffed and pushed for time as per our agreement with the council and police was to leave at 11pm - we were still selling maps right up till this point and that was with 11 event staff members. We did the best we could given all circumstance on the evening, however we've come away with invalueable information on how to improve the next, yet still everyone was happy with how it turned out, attendees were happy, the charity was happy, and the stakeholders were happy. Only person moaning seems to be you... because you got stuck in a little event end traffic? You should have headed over to victoria embankment where the blackfriars underpass was shut on that eve (the road closure) .. now THAT was traffic, the fact remains, you cant moan because people traveled into London. As thats all thats happened here, we payed our fuel tax to get there, paid our road tax to use the roads.. and our income tax for the remainder.

You sir i'm afraid have no arguement, this i call jumping on the fritz bandwagon for no reason other than you're annoyed you were stuck in a little traffic. Not really fair to be judgemental at those who followed all the rules/laws and gained full permission to do as such.

Kind Regards,
BMWFBOC Events Management

Seb said:

Interesting how “BMW Events” has to repeat the same tosh four times to make a point.

BMW Events said:

RE: Roaduser

Thats purely an opinion of your own, but alas there are many others who disagree with you. You are entitled to your opinion, but this is something related to your own taste not everyones.

It was run by all stakeholders of whom all gave consent.

Do also remember WE are tax payers.

We are actually planning a track day in the new year, you are of course welcomed to attend - as all BMW owners are :)

Juke said:

Re:BMW Events

"especially as the majority of the cars that attended belonged to those in the high net worth categories."

Starting a class war now, are we?

"It was run by all stakeholders of whom all gave consent."

Did you ask all other taxpayers for their consent? Oh, wait, we better ask Dave Cam to call a referendum on this.

AwesomeCarEnthusiast said:

The night was absolutely awesome! First I set out through the Dartford tunnel and then drove along the A13 to Westferry, listening to Justin Bieber all the way. Arriving early, there was just enough time to show off my skills behind the wheel by driving around the roundabout in a circle a couple of times. Awesome! As more tunnel runners got there, I promptly triple parked on the double yellows because the space was filling up quickly. Then it was time to gaze at all the other cars and my fellow friends. Wooah… how shiny they all were (the cars I mean). Absolutely awesome!

The chicks collecting money for charity were absolutely awesome too. So cute! But I had to avoid them, ‘cause I’m saving up for a huge rear spoiler to make ‘Dorothy’ look like a real race car. ‘Dorothy’ is a great ride and I’d fallen in love the moment I’d found her on the scrap yard all those years ago. I’ve been pimping her up ever since. She’s absolutely awesome.

Finally we set out on the second part of the night: Going somewhere, but nobody knew where. I just followed you guys and we ended up standing in gridlock most of the time. As exhaust fumes filled the car, I got a bit delirious and started to honk to warn you. And you guys were honking back! It was so awesome. We are truly family. With all the excitement, most people got lost en route, but never mind. I finally made it to the scruffy tunnel underneath Waterloo station in the early hours. Awesome graffiti! I arrived back at ASDA just in time for my early shift to restock the shelves.

Please bring on more tunnel runs. I can’t imagine a better way of spending my time and money!

BME Events said:

Juke - there is no class war. BMW is considered a premium brand and prices itself accordingly. That simply is fact. You know it would be impossible to ask every tax payer so I don't see your point. We spoke to all entities concerned and only Jim Fitz ignored us despite our repeated attempts.

Awesome - I take it you would agree that the event did not encourage speeding and there were no accidents then? I would like to know why you went to the Graffiti tunnel under waterloo station? It was not on our map or part of our route, and we clearly expressed that this road was and still is, closed to motor vehicles. Of course, you would know that had you purchased a map and contributed to our collection. If you found that the night didn't have enough action for you, then good! This was an event designed to get BMW owners together for photgraphic opportunites, get featured in magazines, win some raffle prizes and at the same time spread the word of how great Demelza Hospice is. If you were bored then perhaps you don't understand our mantra of only racing on track. Your are welcome to come to the next event but at least you now know what to expect. When we say charity photographic roadtrip, that's exactly what we mean.

BMW Events have nothing else to add on the whole subject. If you own a BMW, want to meet other enthusiasts and help a worthy cause, then please come do come along. If you fit the above bracket but cannot behave yourself, or are looking for adrenaline filled night of tyre smoke and speed then you are not welcome.

Thanks and regards,

Bavarian Beast said:

Well I had a great time. Got a little lost at first but made it to Vauxhall for the raffle. As a first event, it was well executed and 'professional'. Learn from your mistakes guys, and I'll see you at the next one.

C

:) said:

i defo had a great time, i thought it was an excellent experience whilst raising money for charity, its london so waiting in traffic for 20mins is nothing, u cud have always joined in and put money in the boxes to raise more money, instead your moaning about a good cause, that night there was no trouble at all with the bmw lot, everyone drove apropriatly and safely, other road drivers were in the wrong and driving inapropriatly... Il see you all at the next one to raise more money for CHARITY!!!! :D

:D said:

i definatly had a great time, i thought it was an excellent experience whilst raising money for charity, its london so waiting in traffic for 20mins is nothing, you could have always joined in and put money in the boxes to raise more money, instead your moaning about a good cause, that night there was no trouble at all with the bmw lot, everyone drove appropriatly and safely, other road drivers were in the wrong and driving inappropriatly... Il see you all at the next one to raise more money for CHARITY!!!! :D

Martin said:

RE: AwesomeCarEnthusiast.

Yep, great way to make your point... Making yourself look stupid, well done, you have just made the entire opposition to the tunnel runs look immature and rediculous. I hope you're proud of yourself.

Fool.

Martin said:

RE: AwesomeCarEnthusiast.

Yep, great way to make your point... Making yourself look stupid, well done, you have just made the entire opposition to the tunnel runs look immature and rediculous. I hope you're proud of yourself.

Fool.

J said:

It is evident that the majority if not all of the cars involved in these tunnel runs come from outside the areas that it takes place, if not outside central London.

The only reason that you come into London and in particular Tower Hamlets is for the tunnels, where you can hear the exhaust noise from your cars echo.

So do your charity event I'm all for that, but in your home town, without the tunnels to increase the noise, without central london traffic that you add to for no reason. ( Yes central London traffic is bad, but you are adding to it for no reason )

Have your fun, but don't make others endure it miles.

J said:

It is evident that the majority if not all of the cars involved in these tunnel runs come from outside the areas that it takes place, if not outside central London.

The only reason that you come into London and in particular Tower Hamlets is for the tunnels, where you can hear the exhaust noise from your cars echo.

So do your charity event I'm all for that, but in your home town, without the tunnels to increase the noise, without central london traffic that you add to for no reason. ( Yes central London traffic is bad, but you are adding to it for no reason )

Have your fun, but don't make others endure it miles.

Janice said:

All this talk about raising money for charity is of course utter nonsense. You tunnel runners clog up the roads and pollute the environment. Then, after burning £100 of fuel, you pat yourselves on the back for giving two quid each to charity. What a selfless act indeed.

Tom said:

So if you own a BMW and say you collect money for charities, suddenly laws do not apply to you. Even the cops say it's ok.

Now, that's what I call AWESOME!! :D

I shall fight my parking tickets using these lines! Thanks for the tip!

Martin said:

To all Tunnel Runners:

How many of you actually care what these people think anymore? We know they can't do anything about it.

Let them have their fun for the time being, let them blow of steam at our expense, obviously they have nothing better to do, so by creating an easy outlet for their misguided and "nimby"ist views, we're doing them a favour.

Just ignore them, aside from a forgotten 5 minute interview on TV and a small article on page 28 of a larger newspaper weeks ago, the only coverage has been in small local papers (that nobody except a minority in that area read) and on a glorified online blog that, again, only a small minority pay attention to.

Lets be honest, people are scared of anything new that happens in their area, they will complain about the build up of traffic or how long it takes at the airport or to cross a bridge, but as soon as anyone says why not build a new road/airport/bridge/etc nearby, its an immediate gut reaction to complain about that too.

Its human nature, we understand their concerns, its just a shame they can't understand that our perfectly legal hobby has very few outlets due to the demonisation of motor vehicles and one of those outlets is these tunnel runs as many people now cannot afford to go to shows or track days, but its ok, we understand that all these people have their hobbies that may disturb many others, but because its happening to them, they dont care.

So just leave it to them.

Arthur said:

So now the rich folk of this country have a new hobby!

Forget about golf and foxhunting. They have invented another decadent form of entertainment: These days they are racing around London in their ‘high net worth’ automobiles, showing off their wealth and fortune, terrorizing entire neighbourhoods. All the while hardworking families are kept up all night by the roar of their engines.

But wait! It’s all ok because these self-righteous banksters throw a few breadcrumbs to charity in the process. What a disgrace. No wonder this country is going down the drain.

Janice said:

There you said it, Martin!

You ‘Tunnel Runners’ don’t care what impact your activity has on the lives of those around you. That’s a great attitude.

Bmwowner said:

This is all absolutely irrelevant. The people at this event pay there road tax. They are free to use any road in this country. Regardless of whether you like it or not. Councils and police had been contacted prior to the event and they had no obligation. They could have done this event for the hell of it, but regardless they made abit of money on top for a good cause. Previous comments have already stated that if the police (who were in attendance all night) had any problems they were dealt with there and then. Life is short and if being stuck for 10 minuets extra because there is people in life who actually share a common interest and want to enjoy it, well then i feel very sorry for you.

OwnBMW said:

Bmwowner, why don't you tell us where you live? We shall have 200 cars revving up and down your road in early hours of Sunday morning and let you enjoy your interest even more. After all, as you said, it's our right to use any road we like for any purpose.

BMWowner2 said:

I was at the event and really enjoyed it. It was carefully organised and there was none of some of the absolute rubbish that some of the above seems to describe. The times of big spoilers and anti-social behaviour at things like this are long gone. We all like BMWs and so meeting up with them is hardly a big deal is it?

I actually was the first to arrive at WestFerry, swiftly followed by the Police who were very conscious of making sure everything went smoothly but in actual fact had no real need to be there apart from directing and dealing with the complete idiots who seem to lose all driving ability when there's a couple of cars parked up. I didn't see any hold-up - in fact there wasn't an awful lot in the way of traffic full stop. As mentioned if the buses can fit through without having to even slow then it really is down to poor driving or observation by the general public that caused any issues.

As for OwnBMW, if you live near a road, especially in the middle of London, then you can't really be angry about (shock horror) traffic of any shape or form. You chose to live by a road, in the middle of a city.

Janice, we do care, why else would countless hours of organisation have gone into this?

OwnBMW said:

To BMWowner2
As my name suggests, I also own a BMW and love my car. We have our own little BMW meets as well but never cause any trouble to anyone else as we gather away from towns and enjoy the chats and scenic drives. Not all BMW owners are as selfish as you.


Judging from the pictures above, it's not just "a couple of cars" parked up, was it?
I like the attitude that when other road users complained about the chaos you created, they are automatically deemed "idiots" by you.


And don't tell me you don't have any roads by where you live. So again tell us where you live and we shall all be there to let you enjoy some traffic too.

Janice said:

BMWowner2, yes I already know that you spend countless hours of organisation to make these events as miserable as possible for the rest of us so that you may have your enjoyment.

BMWowner2 said:

To OwnBMW hmm - seeing as you know absolutely nothing about me or anyone else that attended calling me or any of us selfish is a little strong. You know nothing about us other than the fact we're all well up for doing what we love and especially when it has a benefit for charity. Of course we could have just wasted petrol for no benefit instead...

All of the cars were parked up in an organised manner as to disrupt traffic flow as little as possible, and that tactic was wholly successful. If you want to blame anyone, blame the members of the public that were driving slowly filming out of the window with their phones. Although at least they could appreciate what was going on.

I live near a busy road where people tear up and down all the time, especially on noisy motorbikes. I don't complain - the road was there before my house.

Janice, I didn't organise the event, I simply attended. And a sarcastic reply obviously shows that you've run out of useful things to say.

OwnBMW said:

To BMWowner2 - yes I didn't know anything about you until I read all the comments from the 'tunnel runners' and it's obvious that none of you care about what other people say anyway. So I am not expecting you to be different.


I don't live by Westferry or Limehouse tunnel links but I do have friends who are in the area and I visit regularly. The traffic there is never that busy unless there are tunnel runs going on. Are you aware that there are hundreds of flats right by Westferry Circus and Limehouse link? My friends have young children and the increased frequency of tunnel runs and engines roaring through late Saturday nights/early Sunday mornings are making their already deprived sleep time even less.


By all means, continue to meet with your fellow BMW owners but do it responsibly like we do.

BMWowner2 said:

I think the problem here is that you're probably mistaking the cars there for the likes of tuned Japanese or more 'boy racer' type vehicles, which often have stupidly loud exhausts. I can't think of a single car that was at the event which could be described as 'noisy' - as you'll know BMWs are refined cars as standard and any owner wanting to ruin that is simply doing it wrong. There was no one of this sort at the event.

I'm quite sure the vibration caused by the constant buses is probably worse than anything caused by the BMW tunnel run.

AwesomeCarEnthusiast said:

Oh no! Martin, I’m so sorry. I didn’t mean to offend you. I was just so excited by our awesome Tunnel Run. You’ve said Tunnel Running is better than se x. Well, I wouldn’t know (I’m saving myself for Dorothy, you know). So please don’t expel me from the BMW club. It’s all I have! I will give you my hand-signed Justin Bieber special edition if that’s any comfort to you. Please forgive me, Martin!!!

LamboMan said:

I have been following this for a while now, wondering what all the fuss was about. So I went and looked at the BMW club facebook page and the various news articles that appeared in the past few weeks. I expected to see some serious muscle cars and people doing outrageous stuff. But what did I find? A bunch of s issies sitting around in souped-up cars with cheap add-ons and terrible paint jobs, all waiting anxiously for something exciting to happen, but that day never comes. This is so g ay!

BMW Events said:

For anyone who actually cares, the event raised £691.90. We did aim for more, but we were unable to beat the (cost only) reserve on the car we had / still have for auction.
Thanks,

Janice said:

Just look at www.justgiving.com/LondonTunnelRun
and see for yourselves that the BMW club racing event has in fact raised the staggering sum of £1. That’s right! One pound! (as of 13 December2012)
It is also important to note that nobody accepts donations from the Tunnel racers anymore, as the charities do not wish to be associated with antisocial and illegal behaviour.

Michael said:

Now that makes those guys look really noble.

Nigel said:

Since the charities won’t take donations from the Tunnel Runs, I wonder what the organisers do with all the money…
I suppose they spend it on rear view mirror decorations instead. From a Pound Shop that is!

AwesomeCarEnthusiast said:

Hey guys, guys… I have a brilliant idea!

Why don’t we just rob a bank? It would still be illegal of course, but at least we would actually raid, I mean raise, some money. We could then give the loot to my favourite charity: CRIMINON. They provide rehabilitation programmes for offenders, addressing ‘some of the key factors that are known to cause criminality; such as lack of self respect, illiteracy and a lack of moral values’! So we would benefit ourselves in the end. Awesome!

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